To Mr. David,

I have visited your web site and found that your response to the Horus and Jesus connection is absolutely false.

I've noticed that those whom you stated challenged you on your site have been published by you.

So, the idea of a impartial response from a challenge is stretching it quite well. Except, what is it that you are stretching. It certainly isn't the truth because you didn't even come close to it.

So it must have been something else. Sadly, a real reply to your bogus understanding of the worlds' first true deity cannot happen unless both arguments are controlled by a mediator. One such as topix or something so that you and so called christians such as you, can not control the outcome of a reply to an argument.

In topix, there is no chance to create a strawman such as your pathetic site.

Jesus is the carbon copy of the African deity known as Heru. Corrupted by the Greeks as Horus.

From every aspect of the Egyptian Mythology. In fact just like the Mythological Heru/Horus, Jesus too NEVER EXISTED!

If you truly want a real discussion on the farce replies you gave to your website, allow me to elaborate in a real forum, so that everyone can see what a pathetic claim you've made about Horus and Jesus. I'll let you know the forum when you let me know that you want this challlenge. I'll not be one of your strawmen Oh King david.

dw

12/10/09

dw,

I'll be glad to debate this in a forum of your choosing.

David

How is the hell can you make a claim about Heru/Horus' mother was not a virgin because she was married to Osiris, when Mary, Jesus' mother was married to Joseph! If we are to play the "it realiy happened" game, then wouldn't it prudent to explain that Mary was married too? Do you see how much of an idiot you are? It is just a carbon copy of a story told thousands and thousands of years ago.

What do you think Joseph was doing when he was married to Mary? Waiting for God to hit it first so he could get sloppy seconds? I'm really, if you truly believe that Jesus existed then you'll have to try and explain that one.

This should be fun!.... LOL.....

dw

dw,

The story of Jesus specifically states that Mary and Joseph remained abstinent until Jesus was born (see Matthew 1:25). If the story of Horus stated the Isis remained a virgin until Horus was born, despite being married, then I would gladly accept that as evidence that Horus was born of a virgin. But since it instead says that Isis conceived Horus by having sex with her dead husband's body, then she clearly was not a virgin.

David

Man are you stupid? Or are you just one of those Christians that think nothing in this world can be saved without Jesus.

Well you might have a point about that very concept, but it doesn't have anything to do with Jesus.

The concept of Heru/Horus is cosmologically Numerological! That is it! I saw your reply to other things and man you are lost in glitter. You haven't got a clue and may need to purchase one from a clue store. How do someone get so far gone on the subject of the true understanding.

Do you actually believe those who were working to usurp the power of the faith of the sun to turn it to the power of the faith of the son, some how came up with the same for Jesus' mother Marry from Heru's Mother Auset/Isis from Meri, didn't know what they were doing?

You are making an ass of yourself trying to explain away the cosmos. This is what the new racism ideology is up to today. trying to express that the world is only 4,000 years old. True if you are purposely omitting African history. ....LOL....

You havn't got a prayer!....

dw

dw,

Considering that "Mary" or variations thereof were some of the most popular names in the world during Jesus' time (there are seven different women of that name in the New Testament alone), what convinces you that Jesus' mother was named specifically after Isis-Meri from many centuries earlier, and not after one of the thousands of women with that name between the two?

David

That is the dumbest answer given yet and I've heard them all. Matthew states that Joseph and Mary remained abstinent until Jesus was born? Why would anyone of that time marry a woman that was already pregnant. Didn't he think that she was showing?

King David, your argument is biblical.... Do you know what that means?... It requires very little thinking. Matthew? Let me ask you. Was Joseph and Mary married after she was pregnated or before? The New Testament is a do over of th Old Testament. A lot of things have changed because it was god who wrote it in the first place. The bible is the most re-written book in the history of the world. It too is a carbon copy of the Papyri/Book of Ani, the coming forth by day.

This is insane man....

It's good to have faith but it is insane to deny the existence of your mother. LOL.... That is what going on here.

I'm glad you took the challenge. I will be making the arrangements on this issue soon and will e-mail the site to follow in a few days. I came across your site looking for research materials and saw the errors of your writings. Unfortunatly, I'm in the middle of exam week and need this time. I'll will however, pick the forum soon.

Lots of luck King David. You are going to need it

dw

"That is the dumbest answer given yet and I've heard them all. Matthew states that Joseph and Mary remained abstinent until Jesus was born? Why would anyone of that time marry a woman that was already pregnant. Didn't he think that she was showing?"

Sorry, I assumed you were familiar with the story. Per the story, Joseph didn't believe that she was really pregnant by a miraculous conception, and wasn't going to marry her. But then an angel appeared to him and told him that she was telling the truth, so he married her.

Obviously, you don't believe that the story is true, and you're within your rights to believe that. But keep in mind that we're debating whether the Jesus *story* is based on the Horus *story*, so the issue isn't whether the story is true or not, but what the story itself actually says. Right? So how about we keep the discussion to that issue.

David

Oh I'm well aware of the story. I'm stating to you, HOW CONVENIENT!.... Do you think that the order didn't know the contradictions? You're being very naive.

dw,

Sorry, you came across as being unfamiliar with the story, with the questions you asked. The answers to those questions were already in the story, so I'm unclear as to why you were asking them.

David

So the fact that Heru had 12 diciples and Jesus had 12 diciples is a coincidence to you? The fact that he killed, cruxified and resurrected is all born of virgin mother who also was married! he was a ministry at age 12, and the fact that he walked on water should have given you the clue that I was referring to King David. Do you understand the Egyptian spirituality of MA'AT at all? Because if you did, you would understand where they got the idea in the first place.

At any rate, the reason for the name marry that started in Africa with Auset/Isis-Meri was that the spiritual teachings of MA'AT filtered throughout the world. That very teaching of Ausar/Osiris has been copied from the Persians, Greeks especially, Indians and many others. In fact if you've read any works by the ancient historian named Plutarch of Ancient Rome, you would know then that the practice of Dionysus/Osiris (One of many Greek copies of African deities) was still the most popular God in the ancient world. Still being practiced out of Africa which spread throughout the Mediterranean world, including Greece, Italy and Asia Minor all around the time of Caesar and Antony. It's right there in Plutarch's book "Makers of Rome."

But I'll hold off on a lot more of my research and evidence for our debate when the time comes.

That's how the name hanged around so long..

but one more point to make is the practice of worship of Osiris and Isis is the practice of the the sun worship. The sun worship is a numerological order of understanding the Universe from which the Egyptians had already mastered.

The Numerological practice is a Mystery system practice or masonic practice, which is as ancient as the practice of spiritual belief.

12/10/09

"So the fact that Heru had 12 diciples and Jesus had 12 diciples is a coincidence to you? The fact that he killed, cruxified and resurrected is all born of virgin mother who also was married! he was a ministry at age 12, and the fact that he walked on water should have given you the clue that I was referring to King David."

What evidence do you have for these claims? Have you read versions of the Heru or Horus story where these things happened? Have you seen heiroglyphs showing him doing these things? Or did someone just tell you that these things were true, and you decided to believe it without doing any fact-checking of the claims? Personally, I won't believe these claims until I see some kind of evidence to support them, but Christ-mythers never seem to be able to present any evidence. They just keep repeating the claims.

"But I'll hold off on a lot more of my research and evidence for our debate when the time comes."

I look forward to seeing the evidence.

David